Eternal Torment?

By | 6 Jan 2026
Lake of fire illustration

I think I’ve made it pretty clear elsewhere here and here on Miscellaneous Ramblings how I feel about the antisocial-media behaviors exhibited by many self-proclaimed Christians. I’m reporting here my observations on yet another such event I recently witnessed on Farcebook where the comment count topped over 150,000 (and is still counting!).

As it turns out, that event was triggered by the Christian actor and evangelist Kirk Cameron publicly stating in a podcast that he questioned the inclusion of “eternal” in the term “eternal torment” for the wicked. The idea is that after some period of timeline the lake of fire, those who have chosen to be there because they have refused to repent of their self-lordship and surrender to Jesus as Lord will receive “sufficient punishment” that they will be allowed into God’s heaven.

Most everyone immediately started accusing him of embracing the borderline-heretical false doctrine of annihilationism. Others rallied to his defense by actually espousing annihilationism and/or some related variants.

I want to hasten to state here that, by his own statements after the fact, he clarified how he was questioning the validity of — rather than embracing — that particular concept. Though it’s an honest question, personally I don’t think it’s one which needed to be asked publicly because the Scriptures I am about to cite here make the question superfluous.

One thing I’m absolutely certain of: in all the hullabaloo which followed, his original statements have become distorted, embellished, and otherwise twisted into something he never said or intended by those commenters hell-bent on “being right.”

All that being said, some of the opinions expressed in the discussion merit some serious scriptural analysis and thoughtful discussion. I’ll try to accomplish that here.

In the first half of this article, we’ll explore the doctrinal issues themselves. Then in the second half I’ll share a conclusion I’ve drawn concerning the debate itself.

What’s Annihilationism?

For the sake of brevity, I’ll quote Wikipedia’s definition of the word (which, I might add, turned out to be remarkably accurate):

In Christianity, annihilationism is the belief that after the Last Judgment, all damned humans and fallen angels including Satan will be totally destroyed and their consciousness extinguished. Annihilationism stands in contrast to both the belief in eternal torment and to the universalist belief that everyone will be saved. Partial annihilationism holds that unsaved humans are obliterated but demonic beings suffer forever.
Wikipedia

Lake of fire illustrationThis false doctrine has been a key ideological component of several cult systems and borderline-heretical denominations, most notably the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christadelphians, Armstrongists, Seventh-Day Adventists, and several flavors of the Church of God.

All flavors of annihilationism fly in the face of numerous passages found in both Testaments, primarily the New. I’ve listed them all below, if you care to read them (I urge you to do that — there aren’t many of them).

The question Brother Cameron raised believes the torment experienced by the wicked is real, but not eternal. By this, its adherents believe there is some kind of redemptive work going on under the hood and those condemned to the Lake of Fire (some actually include satan and his demons!) will eventually be rehabilitated by their suffering and be permitted access into God’s presence in Heaven. There is no succinct label for this, but can summarized as “purgatorial universalism with post-mortem repentance.” By the way, though the word “purgatorial” appears in that term, we must not confuse it with the Catholic heretical myth of purgatory (purgatory in Roman Catholicism is for the saved, not the unsaved).

What the Scriptures Say…

Scripture References Concerning Eternal Torment

And they shall go forth and look upon the corpses of the men who have transgressed against Me.  For their worm does not die, and their fire is not quenched.  They shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.
Isaiah 66:24

Then He will also say to those on the left hand,  “Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels : for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.”

Then they also will answer Him, saying, “Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?” Then He will answer them, saying, “Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.”

 And these will go away into everlasting punishment , but the righteous into eternal life.
Matthew 25:41-46

But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea. If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands,  to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched — where “their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.”  And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame, rather than having two feet,  to be cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— where “their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.”  And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes,  to be cast into hell fire — “their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.”  Mark 9:43-48 (citing Isaiah 66:24)

…since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.  These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power , when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
2 Thessalonians 1:6-10

But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.  And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.  Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.
Jude 5-11

And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. 2hen the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.  These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.  And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.
Revelation 19:19-21

They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.  The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. … And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.  Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.  Revelation 20:9-10; 12-15

So we can clearly see from the passages I’ve just cited that annihilationism and all its variants are completely unscriptural.

What the Early Church Fathers Believed…

If all that wasn’t sufficient in and of itself, now let’s take a look at what some of the early church fathers had to say on this topic:

What Some of the Church Fathers Said
NOTE: To make these citations more accessible to average readers, I’ve transliterated them into the modern English vernacular.

If you deliberately poison the gospel and drag others with you, you’re heading for a fire that doesn’t go out.
Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Ephesians (circa 110)

You can burn me for an hour. God’s judgment on the wicked is the fire you should actually be afraid of.
Polycarp, Martyrdom of Polycarp (circa 155-160)

Don’t play games with Christ. People who reject him face unending fire; the faithful have real hope.
Clement, Second Epistle of Clement (circa mid-200s)

God’s endgame includes resurrection and judgment. Rejecting God doesn’t end in a slap on the wrist; it ends in enduring punishment.
Irenaeus of Lyons, Against Heresies (circa 180-200)

Mock us now if you want, but God’s court is coming—and the sentence for the wicked is not temporary.
Tertullian, Apology (circa 197-210)

God raises bodies because bodies sinned. And the punishment isn’t “you just vanish” — it’s ongoing penalty.
Tertullian, On the Resurrection of the Flesh (circa 197-210)

This isn’t a finite sentence. The torment doesn’t “run out,” and the fire is described as burning without ending the condemned.
Minucius Felix, Against Plato (circa 200-230)

There’s a deadline on repentance. After judgment, the condemned face ongoing fiery torment with no break and no finish line.
Cyprian of Carthage, To Demetrian (circa 252)

There is a real “after” to judgment: life and joy for the faithful; a terrifying punitive fire for the wicked.
Hippolytus, Octavius (circa 300)

God raises the wicked too — so they can be punished in body. The fire doesn’t end by destroying them; it keeps pain going.
Lactantius, Divine Institutes (Book VII, ch. 21) (circa 325)

Right doctrine won’t save you if you live unprotected by obedience. Final judgment results in either everlasting life or punishment with no endpoint.
John Chrysostom, Homily 6 on John (circa 325)

He treats past divine judgment as a real-world object lesson: God’s wrath is not empty rhetoric, and future punishment is not temporary window-dressing—it is enduring.
Gregory of Nazianzus, Oration 40 (circa 375)

Not all “fire” is remedial purification. There is also punitive fire—judgment—described as unquenchable and endless for the wicked.
John Chrysostom, Homily 8 on 1 Thessalonians (circa 325)

If “eternal life” really means without end, then “eternal punishment” in the same breath can’t mean “ends eventually.” You either make both temporary (which destroys Christian hope), or you accept both as unending. Augustine says the only non-absurd reading is: the punishment of the damned does not end.

You don’t get a third option where you miss the kingdom but also escape punishment. If you never enter God’s kingdom, you remain under judgment—permanently.
Augustine, The City of God (circa 400)

 People want hell-language to be mere scare-talk. You can imagine God easing torments if you want, but you cannot claim Scripture teaches the punishment ends.  The lost remain cut off from God’s life forever, just as the saved live with God forever.
Augustine, Handbook on Faith, Hope, and Love (circa 400)

So it is entirely safe to conclude the doctrine of eternal torment for the wicked has been the historical position of the Christian faith. I could go on and cite the leaders of the Protestant Reformation, but I don’t feel like I need to beat that dead horse any further. 😇

So is Annihilationism Truly a Heresy?

lake of fire photoEven though my initial response was to automatically label annihilationism as totally heretical, in truth I’ve had to adjust/refine that categorization by adding the qualifier “borderline” to that term.

Here’s my reasoning: while both the Apostles’ and Nicene creeds both clearly mention Jesus and the Last Judgment as being woven into the very fabric of our faith, nowhere do either of them specify the sort of punishment(s) destined for the wicked/unsaved. Only the Athanasian Creed mentions the topic at all, clearly stating “And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire.” The problem with that particular statement is it appears to support salvation by good works, rather than grace, which is also clearly unscriptural (see Paul’s letters to the Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, and Colossians, just for starters.)

It seems to me eternal torment falls into a gray area on the border between what are called “essential doctrines” (those determining who is or isn’t a Christ-follower thus impacting the eternal destiny of the soul) and “peripheral doctrines” (i.e., ones found in the Scriptures, but whose acceptance or denial does not define who is or isn’t going to heaven).

I am sure there are many who would disagree with my opinion on this. That’s OK; I don’t hold my position tightly and I’m open to any correction the Holy Spirit might bring or discussion from those more scholarly than myself would care to share in the comments below (respectfully, please! 😎).

Purgatorial Universalism with Post-Mortem Repentance

Now on to the question Bother Cameron raised. Any theological position containing the word “universalism” is heretical on its face and is a clear-cut violation of essential Christian doctrine. Anyone espousing such nonsense deserves zero credibility and, in fact, should be avoided at all costs.

Should we condemn these clearly erroneous doctrinal positions? Absolutely!

Should we accuse those who embrace it as heretics or false prophets? Absolutely!

Should we reject those who honestly ask the question? Not so much! We are instead called to intercede for them before God’s throne, asking our gracious and merciful Heavenly Father to lead them back to sound doctrine by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Since Brother Cameron is asking questions rather than making a stand, our prayers for — and discussions concerning — him should demonstrate mercy rather than condemnation.

We also can safely conclude all those who actually embrace any and espouse patently false doctrine have disqualified themselves from any spiritual leadership role within the Body of Christ. Why? Because they have proven themselves to be untrustworthy when handling the Word of God — until/unless they publicly recant, that is.

Which now leads us to the second half of this article…

Discerning Good & Evil

Tragically, many folks participating in the feeding frenzy surrounding Kirk Cameron’s podcast actually espoused annihilationism or purgatorial universalism with post-mortem repentance. Let’s explore the implications of their behavior for a bit.

Wherever that garden may have been and whatever form it may have taken, God created Eden and placed Adam and his wife Eve inside it. From the get-go, they were created in His likeness and image and were given His delegated authority to be client rulers over this planet, little-g gods, if you will.

Their job assignment? Using the authority given them by God Himself, to expand His solution to “formless and void” (Hebrew: tohuw bohuw see Genesis 1:2) beyond the borders of that garden to the rest of the planet. On top of this, they had already been provided with a divine standard by which to discern good from evil: the verbally expressed will of God.

So when satan enticed them with the lie they could be like God because they would then possess the ability to discern good from evil, it was a double-deception: he actually hoodwinked them into thinking they didn’t already possess both attributes.

Selah!

Fast forward to the Gospel accounts of Jesus being tested by satan in the wilderness after 40 days of fasting. Here we see the same lies to which Adam 1.0 succumbed presented to Adam v2.0, but with entirely different results. Jesus passed the test!

Please note a contrasting story element within each account. Adam and Eve failed while living in a perfect environment and lacking for nothing. Every possible external factor was operating in their favor when they made that tragically bad choice which doomed humanity to our current state. On the other hand, Jesus succeeded in an actively hostile environment (the desert) while entering into starvation (after 40 days or so lacking food, the body starts consuming itself to keep itself alive).

All of which makes Jesus’s accomplishment all the more momentous!

Ongoing Deception

As we can see, the devil’s primary deceptions wielded against the human race have remained unchanged:

  1. Call into question God’s goodness, and;
  2. Cause us to question our identity.

His goal? He wants those he deceives to exercise personal autonomy (self-lordship), all in the name of “freedom.”

The Old Testament consistently calls it: “doing what was right in their own eyes.” Rinse and repeat. On every such occasion, both then and since, it has not ended well for anyone! We only need to look at the 20th century, the bloodiest century in human history, and the current state of affairs on our national and world stages to see this is absolutely true.

It’s truly tragic those entrapped by the world system have bought into that deception, hook, line, and sinker. The far greater tragedy are those Christ-followers who have, for various reasons, turned away from God’s Truth to embrace those lies, as well.

The lies of annihilationism and “purgatorial universalism with post-mortem repentance” are part and parcel of satan’s schtick. Those embracing those errors have arrogantly taken it upon themselves to pass judgment on Almighty God. They are, in fact, discerning good and evil apart from the One Person in the universe Who defines “goodness” by His very Being (see Psalm 118:1 and many other places throughout the Old Testament). Thus, they elevate themselves above the throne of God, proclaiming His clearly and oft-stated will to eternally punish satan, his demons, and their human followers as somehow inherently “wrong.”

“By whose standards is He wrong?” we may ask. Obviously those opposed to God’s clearly stated Word. These folks have been deceived into both questioning God’s goodness and their personal identity as His worshippers.

Are you seeing the same pattern I’m seeing here? Isn’t this merely a 21st-century theatrical revival of Eden albeit with different cast members?

These folks go on to compound their arrogant rebellion by making such stupid pronouncements as, “I won’t serve a God Who eternally torments evil-doers!” — like they actually have a say in the matter. Sheesh!

Our Lord Jesus suffered the most excruciating tortures (point-of-fact: we derive that very term from the word “crucifixion”) to take upon Himself the heinous sins of the entire human race (including yours and mine, I might add!). He also included the heinous sins of all those who steadfastly refuse to accept His gift by surrendering to Him. He is not sending anyone to the lake of fire; they are choosing to go there.

While the world continues rushing headlong toward the cliff of eternal damnation, Father God has both provided a means of rescue (salvation through surrender to Jesus’ lordship) and the messengers to warn them the cliff is there (that would be us as Christ-followers).

If the unsaved choose to figuratively spit in Jesus’ face through their perpetual refusal to repent and submit to His Lordship — despite His constantly and mercifully loving them and wooing them to His throne of grace — who do we think we are to rear up on our hind legs and take Him to task for it?

In Conclusion

This is one of those situations where I begin a-thinkin’ I need to move away from where lightning is about to strike. 😇

Yet neither are we permitted to point the finger at those folks and shout, “Sinners!!!!!” Doing so would lump us in with the other Pharisees from whom Jesus distanced Himself with such exquisite care.

That being said, if you embrace either the false doctrines of annihilationism or “purgatorial universalism with post-mortem repentance,” this is me, a watchman on the wall shouting, “The sword is coming upon the land! Repent!”

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Revelation 3:6

Thanks for reading!

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